Help! I want more drive and tighter turns on my White Diamond. (Futures)

Posted by Fin Guru on Mar 14th 2022

Posted by Fin Guru on Mar 14th 2022

Help! I want more drive and tighter turns on my White Diamond. (Futures)
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Name - MARK B.

Height: 5'9"
Weight: 155lbs
Board Brand: Roberts
Board Model: White Diamond
Board Length: 5'9"
Board Width: 19 5/8"
Board Thickness: 2 3/8"
Board Volume: 31L
Fin System: Futures
Fin(s) currently riding: Ho Stevie Mediums Honey Comb Thrusters
Please describe below what it is you are wanting more of out of your current fin/board experience (example - more drive, tighter turns, more release....etc) or any other questions you might have about fins or fin systems. Thank You.

I have been wanting more drive and tighter turns. I was considering chucking on some large, neutral rake side fins with less hold like the ando blackstix and keeping a medium center fin....but wanted to get some advice before handing over the $$. Thanks a lot!

Fin Guru Response:

Hi there Gabriel - hope all is well.

Ok well More drive and tighter turns equals long running base and upright template. So a neutral is gonna be a little less base and a little bit more raked back. I do remember Roberts Template having a long base and being very upright. So You can definitely get away with combo-ing up fins that are bigger in the front and smaller in the center. The Merrick template does that and the Pivots do that as well. If you have fins laying around to mess around with that could be a good call. But If you don't and you need to get a set then i would lean towards The HS large, Legacy Pivots, and then maybe the Mayhems. The Hayden have a long base and are very upright and that means drive and tight arcs! The Generation foil will give ya a little extra lift when its smaller  as well but, could maybe work against you when it gets bigger.

The Pivots are good as well. I just had a guy who was surfing the Baltic sea with short tight interval windswell.

He wanted what you did and this is just what he sent me:

"I could get some medium neo glass reactors off a friend and was able to take them for a spin yesterday. Waves were super small and weak but from what I can tell after just one session fins felt great. Turns felt kinda efortless. Before I had to drive quite hard through turns to fit them into the shitty waves over here. Having a fin with more flex felt good too. I think I'm gonna stay on the reactors for now. Maybe I'll try the hayden fins too at some point. Even thought about putting the large side fins in and swapping the center for a medium. For now I keep the reactors in for a while."

Now these are FCS2 But they are very similar to the Legacy Pivots by Futures. Both templates from each company is based on the old Kelly Slater k2.1 Template. Both companies templates having a smaller trailing fin.

The next is Mayhem template. It is stiffer cause of the carbon but the template is upright(but not as much as the Hayden) and has a solid base for drive. This is one of my favorite templates for dive and pivot. But, this might be a better fin for boards with more rocker. But I have used it in lower rocker boards with some success. 

 Hope this info Helps! I think If you go with one of the first 2 suggestions you'll see an improvement.


All the Best, 

Fin Guru


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